‘I can’t be gay in northeast Louisiana.’ A ULM student’s powerful message to Phil Robertson

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[I had hoped to find a young person, like this University of Louisiana-Monroe student, to interview before I wrote my Times-Picayune column for Sunday's paper. I didn't find him in time, but on Saturday morning, I did find him. And he agreed to write about his experiences for this blog, anonymously. It's very powerful stuff. I hope you'll read it and share it. His message needs to be heard. - Bob Mann]

By Anonymous

Bob Mann recently wrote a post from the perspective of a young lesbian girl that really painted an accurate picture of LGBTQ life in Ouachita Parish. But I couldn’t share it on my Facebook.

It was too gay.

“It’s fine for you to stand up for the queers,” my grandparents will say, “but God help you if you’re one of them.”

I am, it appears to be, the last gay man still in the closet to his family. That’s why this post is anonymous. That’s why my sexual orientation is blank on Facebook. That’s why I use gender-neutral pronouns when talking about my significant other.

I can’t be gay in Northeast Louisiana. I came out to my parents, and they’ve shoved me back into the closet.

“The family isn’t ready to hear that,” they said.

The family isn’t ready. Well, I suppose in all fairness it did take some getting used to myself.

I live in West Monroe, and I’m a Mass Communications student at the University of Louisiana at Monroe (ULM). I moved here because it’s more progressive than my hometown, also in Northeast Louisiana. I mean, it has two gay bars. Look out San Francisco.

But West Monroe is also home to the most famous anti-gay person in the world: Phil Robertson. I’ve never met Phil. But I was raised by a Phil Robertson.

My Phil Robertson told me that I was an asshole for being so selfish to come out of the closet to my mother.

My Phil Robertson told me that my boyfriend will never be welcomed to his house, as if he were diseased.

My Phil Robertson threatened my life because I had the audacity to be who I am. 

I’m 21 now. I first realized I was gay when I was 13. I’ve known that I liked boys since I was eight. And I will never forget the day that I decided I wasn’t going to be gay.

I was in Sunday school, and I’d been daydreaming about moving off to San Francisco, because my dad had told me “it was full of faggots.” It sounded like the place for me.

Then it came to be my turn to read the Bible. And I read the verse aloud.

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

That didn’t quite click with me, so I asked what it meant. And my Sunday school teacher said, “It means that being gay is a sin.” I felt sick. It was fine if my dad hated gays, but now God does, too?

My future caved in around dreams of sunny California and San Francisco, until all I could see were the fires in the pit of hell.

I was 13 years old.

So, I became straight because I didn’t want to go to hell, and any time I strayed from the path of heterosexuality, I prayed to God to heal me of my sickness. And, then, after a while, I still liked boys. So, I prayed harder. I prayed more. I cried. Until eventually, I stopped believing in God altogether.

If there was a God, surely he heard my prayers. So, he either is wanting me to be a sinner or he doesn’t exist. Either way, it’s not a god I wish to believe in.

I was 16 when I lost my faith. I was also 16 when I met my first boyfriend. It was like being James Bond in Podunk, Louisiana. We’d sneak off to the soybean fields just so we could be together. It was all a magical experience of holding hands under blankets and secret signals for “I love you.” Ah, to be 16 again.

I had my first kiss, my first time and my first heartbreak. I was being the most abnormal person in school, but I was finally living what I thought was a normal life. I was being me. Even though “me” involved leading a double life.

Long story-short: I regained my faith. In fact, I’ve been considering becoming a minister. I am very much still a gay man. And I believe God has called me to minister to other gay people to let them know that God loves them just the way they are. I’m to undo the hurt caused by the Church—the same hurt caused to me.

Gay people, more often than not, throw the baby out with the bath water when it comes to religion. But we have a good reason. We’ve been scarred. Religion has damaged us. And I try to share with them the light I have seen in the Episcopal Church. But every time I get close to a breakthrough, something happens that brings out the worst in people.

One year it was Chick-fil-a. This year it’s Phil Robertson.

Thanks to Phil, I now know where everyone in my family stands on the issue of whether or not I’m a human being.

I even saw a “friend” of mine post something about how gay people can’t be Christians. Wow. Not only will they keep us from having equal rights, but they’ll keep us from equal salvation. We can’t just be second-class citizens. We have second-class souls.

I drive through town, much like the girl in Bob’s story, and I see everyone talking about how right Phil is. How they have Christian values by excluding about 15 percent of the population from their religion.

Phil claims to love everyone, and I have to believe that he has the best of intentions for saying what he said. But he must realize the damage that those words do to people like me.

He encouraged – hopefully unintentionally – a two-week-long “fag bashing” in Monroe and around the world. He made me feel unsafe in my own home. I can’t count how many times I heard “faggot” over the Christmas visit home.

All of this is in a state that still has laws against, and still arrests people for, having homosexual relations.

I remember hearing about Matthew Sheppard. I remember learning about Harvey Milk. I’ve never been under any impression that northeast Louisiana is safe for gays.

And people say Phil is being persecuted for his beliefs.

You don’t know persecution until you’re a 12-year-old boy sitting in a church pew when your preacher encourages everyone to vote to make gay marriage illegal because they think you don’t deserve the same joy of raising a family due to your depravity.

You don’t know persecution until you’re told that God doesn’t love you because of how He made you; when Christian fundamentalists are tied up to the back of pick-ups and dragged down a back road because they believe the Bible. When you know that, then you can talk about persecution.

I try really hard to not get angry over this. But it’s hard for me not to see red when I think about my grandparents, whom I love, who will never be able to be a part of my life because of their own ignorance. I doubt my parents come to my wedding one day. All because my love is different than their love.

But my love isn’t different. It isn’t unholy. It isn’t wrong because a man with a beard said so in a GQ article.

My love is real. And it’s not going away.

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386 thoughts on “‘I can’t be gay in northeast Louisiana.’ A ULM student’s powerful message to Phil Robertson

  1. What an excellent post by the Anonymous author. I hope he can find some encouragement from Matthew Vines. Vines is an evangelical Christian Bible scholar who is also gay and does a fantastic job helping other conservative Christians understand why it is important to support equal rights for gay people — not despite their faith, but BECAUSE of it. His excellent Bible study can be found here, and it is well worth watching and sharing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY He also founded The Reformation Project — http://www.reformationproject.org — to build Christian support for equal rights for lesbian and gay people. Worth getting plugged into and sharing.

    • Christian and gay don’t go hand in hand. In fact he is going against the very thing he believes in. He is living in sin and will end up paying for his sins. Especially leading others into deception. God will not have mercy on Matthew Vines.

    • God loves gay people, their soul is equally important. Their eternity is equally important. Jesus hung on a cross for the sins of man. Including sexual sins. It is a sin to be gay. He loves the person hates the sin. Maybe if people would find Salvation and not religion they would realize that. It’s true salvation that delivers us from sin. The murderer, the thief, the liar, the abuser, the cheater, and the confused. Does he love any of these less than he loves a Christian? No!! He dies for all of us! His blood is for all sin of every nature. Deception though is a lie of the devil. Being a minister without being called, is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Many will come in his name! Do not be deceived! Sin is Sin! The bible says it, and GOD does not lie!!

      • Absolutely! All sin is equal, no different degrees, no little white lies. People today are all about pc, & no God. God loves everyone, he sent his son to die for sinners.

      • Amen i do not believe in homosexualty its wrong the bible says its wrong . But i would never treat a gay person with disrespect because they are human and as u said God hates the sin not the person all we can do is pray for these people . Remember we are not there Judge God is and he will decide thier fate not us !

      • Do all of you Bible School students who just got back off of your winter break and got an assignment by one of your teachers to come to this blog and profess your belief in god for a grade really believe the crap that you are spewing? Seriously, do all of you really believe that there is some supreme being or spirit up there or wherever he is supposed to be watching you and every other one of the billions of people on earth and is judging you or is going to judge you when you die? Have you any idea of how much time that would take him? If there really is a god, he doesn’t give a shit about any one of us. All of you… Get a life. And to all of the LBGT community, quit worrying about god. He doesn’t give a shit about you either. Live a good life and die without regret.

      • Shannon,

        Christ died for those that are his. He loves all people with a common love, as you or I should. But we love our spouses, kids, our family in a very different way than we love humankind. Jesus died for those who are his, those the Father chose before the foundation of the World, those who the Father has drawn to Christ.

        Love the sinner, hate the sin is a nice sentiment, but it is not biblical. Jesus is not sending sins to Hell on the day of judgment- He is sending sinners-(humans) there. This includes liars, thieves, whoremongers, drunkards, murderers, adulterers, the greedy, gossips, blasphemers, idolaters, etc (Romans 1:28-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Revelation 21:8, Exodus 20). This is why all people (all have sinned, there is no one righteous Rom 3:9 ff, 23) need a Savior. It is only those who repent and turn to Jesus for salvation who will enjoy eternity with Him- as well as a life that has victory over self and sin today.

        Ken Burk- I am no Bible School Student as you refer- If you wish to have an intelligent discussion, put away the attacks and bring a salient point.

      • I made my point and I stick by it. god does not give a shit about you. However, If there just happens to be one he is going to look at how you lived your life, how you treated others, and how you treated the planet. Me, I’d just have to fess up and tell him that he gave me no good reason to believe, not because of my life because I have it good, but because of how he let and lets so many people and creatures suffer and die needlessly at the hands of other people. I do, however, take exceptionally good care of the planet that you believe he created. I’m sure that he’ll give me a pass.

      • I recommend reading Job, the most powerful explanation I know of why God allows his creations to suffer. I will cut straight to the point, at end of Job’s suffering he announce to world that before he only knew God by name, after suffering he personally understood who God really was. Even God himself has to suffer every day on this earth to give us a glimpse of what God and Love are really all about. I am glad you have a great life, I pray to God it is always that way.

      • pray for dolphins, whales, elephants, and black bears. pray for the people getting killed in Syria and Sudan. pray for the bees because without them we’re all dead. Don’t worry about me, I don’t.

      • As you advised, I reread the Story of Job. Having been raised in the religion that followed the particular bible that you referred to, I was somewhat familiar with the story. I think that we’ve gotten off of the whole gist of Dr. mann’s blog a bit, but as this young man at the center of this gay debate has suffered at the hands of his family and community I guess that Job may play in well into the discussion. It is funny how people can see different meanings in the same story. Half of the comments to this posting have the bible saying that being gay is wrong and the other half saying that it is not. You see the Job story showing that god is a great guy if you believe in him. The story ends with Job restored to health, with a new family and twice as prosperous. My wife teaches third grade at an inner-city public school. A third grade student died of cancer last year. Yeah, a third grader… a pretty horrible death starting with lung cancer and ending in his brain. I don’t know if his mother blamed god for the boy’s death, but if she didn’t I’m guessing that she’s in for a new and better son and maybe a bunch of cash. If she did blame god, then I guess…hmmm…I guess that she won’t be making out very well. Steve, It is just a story intended to keep people in line with their religion (it would have been Jews at the time. the jews always considered G-d to be vindictive). If you don’t believe in God he will ef you up. I guess that these troubled LBGT youth that don’t blame god have a good chance at redemption. The rest of them, not so much, eh? Bart Ehrman is Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I would suggest you reading his book “Misquoting Jesus”.

      • It is NOT a sin to be gay….it is the ACT of homosexuality that is the sin. Is it a sin to be black, or brown, or white? No. Gay isn’t any different than a skin color. These are conditions (nouns), not ACTS (verbs) of sin. The ACTIONS (verbs) are the sin. Other than that, Shannon, you pretty much have it right. Not sure about your being called comment, but you may be right. I’d have to do some bible research on that one.

    • Vines is no Christian because he hates homosexuals enough to lie to them about God’s standards and will not warn them that their sin will find them cast into Hell.

    • LOL it wasn’t Phil who said it is wrong, it was God.

  2. What a crock of shite. The cowardly author, who doesn’t have the courage to admit what they are, wants a 2000 year old faith to change its definitation of sin for their comfort. This is reference to an interview where the quoted said God judges. If that scares them, they must also be afraid of shadows and loud noises. And of course, some ass here has to praise it because it makes them feel all liberal and special.

    If you are Christian, Muslim, or Jewish, your faith says homosexual acts are a sin. Deal with it. Become Wiccan or something, but stop crying because you don’t like what someone else said. Grow the F up.

  3. Remarkable how these inclusive, broad-minded leftists are thoroughly unwilling to permit the existence of ANY opinions on homosexuality which disagree with their own!!!
    Nope. No hypocrites on the left.

  4. He should be more worried about engaging in sin and having sexual intercourse where your food is disposed of.

  5. I wish people would just love people and QUIT making God look like such a hater.

    • I wish people would stop saying that “disagreeing with” and “hate” are the same thing. God disagrees with each of us but still loves us. The same should go for everyone down here on earth.

      • I don’t understand why Christians think to dislike and hate aren’t the same thing, or you believe there are degrees to hate and sin. I am confused how Christians believe the literally English translation is equal to the precise meaning of the original author who wrote in Greek or Hebrew thousands of years ago. Greek language was a much more precise language than English. If you really want to understand God’s words, please attempt to study or listen to people who have studied. Just to be clear, those of you who believe this young man is living in sin, or his soul is in jeopardy, or in the eyes of God he is jeopardy, understand by your own belief of God’s words any of you who have had sex with a man or woman out of wedlock, lied about anything, stole anything in your life, hurt someone with vulgar and hateful language you are in the same boat, living in sin and condemned. I choose to belief in a loving God, that sacrifice himself to teach us how to love each other, nothing else. He left us one law to live by, and we still fail to understand it. Nothing in the ten commands compels us to like or love each other, Jesus fixed that. The law failed to bring the Kingdom of God to mankind. Paul says if anyone needed to be judged, he was first on the list, he as a minster and lawyer murdered lots of Christians for their beliefs before he understood Jesus. May God give you the grace and mercy to forgive and love others.

    • God is a righteous judge, Jennifer. He will Judge you and me by the same standard: Moral Perfection. If you have lied, stolen, looked with lust (sexual desire), blasphemed, made an idol, murdered, hated, fornicated even once, you will be judged as guilty and cast into Hell. Thats why you and I need a Savior. Repent and call out to Jesus!

      • I do not understand where the “level” of sinning comes from, nor do I care. MY understanding is that there is one sin that is unforgivable – the rest God sent his Son to the Cross for. Frankly God is judge and jury – not me.
        “I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29 (CEV)

      • amen

      • Tia,
        There is only one sin that is unforgivable- indeed-however, there is no sin that is forgiven unless a person repents and turns to the Savior. This means that unless you turn from your sin- even your own righteousness- the cross of Christ which is the way in which God can forgive sin because the penalty has been paid – is of no effect to you. You must repent and trust in Christ alone in order for your sins to be forgiven.

      • Remember what happened to John the Baptist, yes he liked to call out sin.

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  7. Its just amazing to me that the gays expect to voice their opinions, but don’t want to hear anyone’s else’s. There is no such thing as a homosexual christian. Apparently you need to read your Bible more than you have if you are thinking of being a minister. It is a sin to be gay, it states that in the Bible and if you will remember that was one of the reasons God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. And the saying that you are born gay is such a crock, that is like saying God makes mistakes and He doesn’t!!!

    • 3% of the population telling the rest of us and God that we are wrong If he really wants to see Homo Bashing he should go to Iran they bash with real rocks there not words

    • DK Smith,

      There are many sins accorded the death penalty in the Old Testament. Do you treat them all with the same seriousness with which you judge homosexuality? And if not, why not?

      As to whether one can be a homosexual and a Christian, I can find no evidence that Jesus said anything about homosexuals (or sinful people) being barred from the faith, though he does have some choice stuff to say about judging other people’s sins. So I have to wonder: has God revealed this truth to you directly? Or are you inferring from your own disgust what Christ would or would not think and who is or is not permitted to love and follow him?

      • Aposiopetic: Jesus Christ (God) inspired the entire Bible.
        So when Paul is writing, He is more taking dictation than he is coming up with creative thought- Here is what Jesus says about homosexuality.

        Romans 1:26- 28For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
        28And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

        1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

        Galatians 5:19-21Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

        And the Revelator, John, quoting Jesus

        Revelation 21: 8But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

        Note, it is not myself, or any other Christian doing the judging here. This is God Almighty, who holds your very life in His hands. If you have lied, stolen, blasphemed, been greedy, had sex outside of marriage, even looked with lust- you are already under condemnation (John 3:18) and you need a Savior. Call out to God!

  8. Dear homosexual bro,
    I understand you’re hurt, for what, I don’t know. I don’t know who the ugly dude with the beard is, I’ve never watched his show, and frankly I doubt I would use my time for that (unless its research related), but I happen to think that a man’s words only injure somebody who ALLOWS themselves to be injured. Trust me, as a Christian, I’m constantly mocked by the people you ally yourself with. They spit on Christ, then say we, yes, us Christian’s, need to be more inclusive. So please allow me a second to say, welcome to the club. I could say it sucks, but I won’t. I won’t because I don’t allow words to hurt me, or change my moods, etc. Hey, consider this a learning lesson. You’ve now been on the other end of what so many of us Christian’s have been going through for decades now. Maybe it’ll help YOU to be more inclusive of us.

    Also, you CAN’T be openly homosexual and be a Christian minister. Christ did not change the Old Testament, He TAUGHT from it. He Was and Is The Old Testament. Now I’m sure some blasphemous liberal “church” non-profit will contradict The Lord and make you a minister, but they will stand in direct contradiction to God and His Word.

    And yes, God loves you too. Just not your openly homosexual lifestyle. And I love you too!

    If you want some Bible lessons, hit me up, we can talk some more.

    God bless you ♥

    • Amen and Amen!!

    • Perfectly said! Two thumbs up! P.S. I do know who the “ugly dude with the beard” is though and I do love he and his family. :)

      • Thank you. I’m sure that dude’s cool, we worship the same God, as well as his family. And what little I’ve read about the guy, and read what he’s said unrelated to this situation, I don’t think he would mind me making light of his looks, he seems to be a good guy with a good sense of down home humor. I use humor to describe myself in the most unflattering terms, trust me on that, its good for laughs.

        May God bless Mr Robertson!

    • Mr. Castro, it’s unfortunate that you are mocked for your beliefs and I wish that it were not so, but please understand that self-identified Christians make up the majority in this country, and that the mockery you face is unlikely to come with the same visceral threat to your safety that accompanies gay-bashing here. You are also not subject to any governmental prejudice for your faith, while the author is denied equal civil rights and recognition, and the liberal churches you reference are denied the same rights of free exercise that your church enjoys, lacking the power to have marriages performed between two consenting adults recognized in most states.

      As to whether one can be openly homosexual and be a minister, I wonder where you take the authority to declare it so? Surely, people can be ministers–and many are–who otherwise violate the laws laid down by the Old Testament, who blaspheme (“oh my God!”), who fail to make appropriate sacrifices, who are rebellious with their parents; all of these sins punishable by death. Whether or not you view homosexuality as a sin, I do not see how you can reasonably count it a greater one than any of these, nor how you can reasonably suggest that you are the arbiter of what Christ would or would not approve, when it comes to His ministry.

      • I’ve read your posts a number of times and sit here in awe of your writing ability. I have been slack-jawed noticing so many of the narrow minded people posting heinous crap. What a welcome change you are. I hope that you are doing great things with your knowledge.

      • Your post demonstrates an ignorance of the role of our government and of Christian principles. Being a homosexual is a lifestyle choice. Very few choices are offered Constitutional protection. Sexual orientation is not among them. And no, most states do not recognize gay marriage and most who do have been forced to do so by a court, not by the will of the people.
        Concerning the eligibility of ministers, we all certainly fall short of the grace of God. The issue with a homosexual minister is you have a man who is proclaiming that God is wrong and his lifestyle is ok. The difference between him and a Jimmy Swaggart is Swaggart messed up, admitted he messed up and asked forgiveness. He didn’t try to argue God was wrong and he was right. That’s what a homosexual minister is arguing. Second, most lay people and any first year theology student can explain it. It’s been explained at least twice in the discussions here.

      • Aposiopetic: I have been arrested three times for my beliefs in this country. I have been knocked out once, assaulted physically and verbally more times than I can count. I have been threatened with arrest, trespassed, rejected for jobs, have had my own spouse attacked for my views on the Bible and threatened with her job. You are full of beans.

        All the sins are worthy of death, and will be punished by God on the day of judgment. Jesus Paid the penalty for those who will repent and believe. Call out to God!

      • Stevec,

        The difference is repentance. Repentance is a sincere turning away, in both the mind and heart, from self to God.(Ephesians 2:8-9). If you are Christian, and therefore you know the Truth of God’s Holy Word, you know that homosexuality is a sin. If you are homosexual and you think God is okay with that because he loves you and you willfully continue in your homosexuality how is that repentance? You have now turned away from self (sin and the sin nature) to God. How can one minister that Gospel to others when he has not repented of his own sin. Our Faith in Jesus Christ and acceptance of Him as our savior, our remission (repentance) of our sins, and God’s forgiveness is what determines our salvation.

        “However, there can be no faith in Christ without repentance and no repentance without faith. The two are inseparable.” (Eph 2:8-9)

        If you don’t acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin how then can you repent of it?

        “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1 John 1:8)

        We all sin and fall short but we should be trying daily in our walk with Christ to rid our lives of sin. If you are living in sexual immorality (homosexuality, fornication (sex before marriage etc.)) how are you sincerely turning away from yourself and your sin and turning toward God?

      • Jim,

        To begin with, our government protects or rewards a variety of lifestyle choices (religion and creed, political affiliation, quite a lot of medical treatment, having children, and marriage for straight people, just to name some of the big ones). But much more to the point, your assertion that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice is not supported by science, by social research, or even by common sense. Why on earth would anyone choose to suffer exclusion, intolerance, endangerment, and abridgment of civil rights, with no benefit to themselves? What benefit are homosexuals gaining from the choice that you imagine they are making? When did you make the choice tone straight?

        The belief that sexual identity is a matter of choice is so widely discredited that Exodus International, the oldest and largest ministry working to help homosexuals “make other choices” has not only closed but has also apologized to the gay community.

        I take significant issue with the assertion that an open homosexual can’t be a minister at all–even if he is not having sex, apparently–but more than that, people who suggest that biblical references to homosexuality ought to be read in context aren’t saying God was “wrong”, any more than anyone defending their failure to make a lot of animal sacrifices is saying God is “wrong”, or any more than anyone who does not require that women cover their heads and keep silent in church is saying that God is “wrong”, or any more than anyone who feels that slavery is a terrible and intolerable institution is saying that God is “wrong”. In these other cases, the vast majority of Christians are happy to consider context, but it somehow becomes a denial of God when the perceived sin in question involves romantic affection. The inconsistency is both perplexing and frustrating, and is not well addressed in any post here.

        As to Christian principles, it is my feeling that Mr. Castro and many others here demonstrate their own ignorance of matters, disregarding the repeated biblical instruction that judgment is to be left to God, and instead positioning themselves as arbiters of what is and is not Christian, not by quoting scripture, not phrased within the parameters of “this is what my church teaches” or “this is my personal belief”, but stated as bald fact: homosexuals cannot be Christians, homosexuals cannot be ministers, literalist biblical principles apply to homosexuality but not to other matters, or only to sexuality but not to other matters. Surely there is no one who knows the truth of our hearts but Christ? Surely it is God’s right to weigh our sins, and not the province of man to cherry-pick those we will disdain and weigh them for ourselves? Are these not principles of faith in Christ?

      • Of the myriad of choices we can make very few are constitutionally protected. Even marriage between straight people is often denied based on age, familial relations, identification requirements and how many people you would like to marry.
        Second. My assertion that homosexuality is a choice is firmly grounded. There is absolutely no conclusive scientific evidence showing homosexuality is anything other than a choice. Frankly, it’s really simple. I have a strong physical desire to have sex with beautiful women. I choose to only have sex with my wife. It violates my natural instincts but I do it to honor her and God. Homosexuality is no different. It is a physical act and as such is a choice. I chose to be hetero when I had sex with my wife. I could choose to be homosexual at any time.

        By refusing to acknowledge what God calls a sin as sin, you are saying God is wrong. As another poster mentioned, the difference is repentance. I can sin, repent(turn from my sin), and be acceptable to God for many services. A minister cannot promote what God calls sin and claim to serve God.

        When it comes to the issues of sacrifice or other Old Testament requirements perhaps you should research the topic a bit. Many of the Old Testament Law was fulfilled in Christ. That is why sacrifices are no longer necessary. This isn’t context, it’s what the Bible says. It is 2000 year old doctrine and is not comparable to this Johnny-come-lately acceptance of homosexuality.

        Lastly, when Christians say homosexuality is a sin and sin is not acceptable to God they are not passing judgment. They are simply stating what the Bible says. If a friend and I leave work and I tell him, ” Hey, the speed limit is 35 in that construction zone. If you speed you will get a ticket” I am not passing judgment. I helping him by informing him of the law and what will happen should he break it. My job is done. If he breaks the law, the judge will decide his punishment. When I tell someone homosexuality is a sin and sinners do not inherit the kingdom, I am simply echoing what the Bible says.

        OK-one last point. The New Testament does not endorse slavery. It simply says that if you are a slave work hard for your master. If you are a master, treat your slaves well.

      • John the Baptist,

        I consciously used “unlikely” in my remarks, and I stand by it. I am sorry to hear that you have suffered such persecution for your beliefs, but I suspect that we can both agree that these experiences are, mercifully, not typical for Christians in the US. I assume, given the context of the above remarks, that all of these things have befallen you simply for identifying yourself publically as a Christian? Perhaps you can take comfort in the certain knowledge that loss of employment, discrimination, and arrest over matters of religious belief are unambiguously illegal in every state; if you have not pursued legal recourse, I encourage you to do so. If you are willing to share what part of the country you live in, I would be happy to provide information on possible avenues of action.

        While I am hesitent to frame any persecution as a “gift”, I hope that your own experiences have granted you some insight and some empathy when it comes to the experiences that have so long been typical for LGBTQI people, and other marginalized groups.

        As to the punishment of sin, I leave that to God, as I hope do you. I am attempting, with my comments, to explore comparative privilege, scriptural interpretation, and to encourage that whatever sins we perceive (according to our understanding of scripture) we do not take upon ourselves to punish here in life.

  9. Your god will never send you to hell for how he/she/it created you because your god has neither the power to create or condemn, because your god does not exist, it is a figment of your imagination.

    The one true God inspired the Bible, declared in the Bible what is moral, and sent His one Son to die for all those who cannot live up to His standards (all liars, greedy, covetous, fornicators, etc.), and admit to it, repenting and turning to Jesus alone for salvation. http://www.needgod.com

  10. I fear that if you are damaged by public opinion, not even aimed at you, you have much deeper issues than a strangers opinion re a personal viewpoint. Your personal choice is NOT going to be favourable to all, get over it.

  11. I admire the author for being able to write such words….however, please keep in mind that Phil Robertson did not write the Bible…and that is what he is quoting…He just expressed his beliefs and feelings about living a Christian life style….just like you are expressing your feelings about your lifestyle.
    Phil is not your father and what your father put you through was difficult I am sure, but that was also his belief and way of living.
    Let us not forget that Respecting each other is very different than wanting others to accept the way we choose to live…no matter what it is.
    I am a Christian Catholic and live strongly by what the Bible says…however, I at no moment have taught my children to be disrespectful towards others and what they choose to believe in….we have many friends who have different lifestyles, and we love them dearly…but we do not accept certain choices that they have made.
    Please remember that this is a person, like many others, that chose to share his beliefs.

  12. This person obviously chose to take his years of pain from his own experience as place blame on Phil for his opinion. Phil did not attack or encourage a “gay witch hunt”. Read his interview, agree or disagree, and move on with your life. If you were offended by his words, it’s because your choosing to be. He didn’t directly attack anyone. If anything, this young man needs to deal with his relationships within his own family. God doesn’t see a person by their sin, he just sees their heart. Gay, Liar, Glutton… doesn’t matter. If salvation was based on our sins, none of us would be saved. People need to be looked at as people and not their sin. Phil is right in saying we should love one another. You may not agree with ones struggle/sin/lifestyle, but God commanded us to above all else, Love one another.

  13. I agree with Michael you cannot change the bible because it agrees with your sin. Idea of being a minister to lead others to believe not a sin. Wow. God does Love you he hates the sin.

  14. The act of sex with the same sex is a sin… PERIOD. I want to touch on this subject in a couple of different ways. 1. I understand that love is love but the act of sex is meant to procreate therefore making its general purpose moot when it comes to same sex relations. Now with that being said and all things being equal… the Bible does specifically say homosexuality is a sin but it also says lust is a sin and adultry is a sin and sexual immorality in general is a sin. So in some form or another most people have sinned in the bedroom. The difference is once a person realizes their sin and repents at this point we are to go and sin no more. … which leads me to my next point. ALL PEOPLE SIN….PERIOD we all deal with sin. Just because I am not gay and I dont deal with the desire to have sex with a person of the same sex does not mean that I dont have a sin of choice. I am a cleptomaniac (sp?) I am in recovery so to speak but I haven’t stolen anything in a very long time. I still struggle with the temptation of stealing… but I dont…. and the last time I checked stealing was a sin too. Just like an addict srruggles with drugs and alcohol… they are still addicts but the choose not to do drugs or drink. Being gay and fighting the urge to have sex with a person of the same sex is no different than any other person struggling with sin So the point is. We all struggle with something… we all sin… but what are we doing to lead a path of righteousness once we have been saved? If Phil Roberetson had said all murders and liars and alsoholics and adulterers were sinners he would have been no less or no more correct but people would have praised him. Lastly. I am sorry that people treat you differently. That is not what being a Christian is. Being a Christian is about showing people to Christ thru love. And I agree that most people are ignorant to what the Bible act says and the pick and choose the parts of the Bible they want to live by. So yes… is homosexuality a sin… yes…. do I think you will go to hell… yes…. do I think it is possible to be redeemed and go to heaven…. yes…. now… go back and replace homosexuality with addiction murder rape lying committing adultry stealing…etc and you have the same answers. We all have the option of accepting Jesus as our savior no matter how bad the sin…. God bless…

    kind of sin or the other and being that no sin is greater than the next then we are all hell bound but that God for sending your Son Jesus to die on the cross for me that
    theu Jesus I can be saved go and not sin again. I hate the lame excuse well God made me this way. GOD did not make you this way He made man in his image and gave him free will. It is up to us whether or not we choose to give in to our desires of the flesh. He did not make eve for her to sin. He gave her and adam everything they could possibly want and it was the Devil that siad go ahead eat the fruit. Just like the devil says go ahead and steal or be gay… it is the
    Devil justifying our desires but it is up to us to do the right thing. So eve had just done what she was told then we have these issues but because she couldn’t help herself… she had any and everything she could ever want or need but she got greedy and gave in to temptation. I am so sick of watered down theology. People twisting and turning Gods word to suite their need. The only way to Heaven is thru Jesus. We must ask for forgiveness in His name go and ( try) not sin again. If we fall short and we do daily…. we must ask Jesus everyday to forgive us our imperfections.

    • Gorgeously said sister.

    • Teresa,

      I appreciate your candor. I do want to ask, though, about the following from your post:

      “1. I understand that love is love but the act of sex is meant to procreate therefore making its general purpose moot when it comes to same sex relations.”

      Does your church condemn marriage and marital relations involving post-menopausal women, infertile individuals, or people who must avoid procreating because of substantial risk to themselves or to any potential offspring (disease, genetic disorders, whatever)? In all of those cases, sex acts will not be procreative, but my understanding is that few (if any) churches oppose such marriages, or suggest that their followers cease to be physical with their partners in old age, or otherwise consistently confine sex to purely procreative acts.

  15. it wasn’t Phil Robertson who encouraged a two week long “gay bashing” that was the media who continued to misquote what Phil said. The media (GQ magazine) asked Phil a question, and Phil answered that question based on his belief. From that the TV media, bloggers, FB, etc. continued to twist what Phil said….that homosexuality, along with drunkeness, lieing, cheating, stealing, etc. is a sin.
    This is the media’s fault.

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  17. God created everything and everyone. God loves everyone. God hates sin. He hates the sin not the sinner. There is a difference between sinning, acknowledging it was wrong, asking for forgiveness and working to not repeat it versus continuing to live daily in sinful habits. The same principle applies to every sin: sleeping with someone of the opposite sex outside of marriage, excessive drinking, drugs, violence, prostitution, cheating and so on. If you choose to act on your sinful ways day after day, week after week, year after year without changing your heart and asking for forgiveness, that goes against God.
    In the passage of John 8, the Pharisees take a woman caught in adultery to the temple courts where Jesus was teaching to try and catch him in a trap. They use the Law of Moses commands to attempt to have Jesus allow them to stone the woman for her sin. He says” Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” No one throws a single stone and they leave, no one condemned the woman. HOWEVER, Jesus said, “Go forth and leave your life of sin.”

    The point I am trying to make is that we are all sinners and God loves us but He does not want us to continue living in our sin. He will save us if we only ask. That does not mean our sinful desires leave us. We get to choose whether or not we act on our sinful behavior. Below I have copied and pasted the passage in case anyone would like to read it.

    John 8:1-11

    1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

    2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

    But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

    9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

    11 “No one, sir,” she said.

    “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

    John 12: 42-50 NIV

    42 Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not openly acknowledge their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved human praise more than praise from God.

    44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.

    47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

    • Berlin, this is probably the best comment I’ve ever read! You nailed it in your first paragraph. I’m with you 100%.

  18. I am so tired of these gay leftist saying that acceptance = loves & nonacceptance = hate. It is simply not true! You cannot be a Christian or a pastor & be gay. Just as much as adulterer cannot be a Christian pastor. Just because some do does not make it right. No where in the bible does it say God wants you to be happy. As far as the writer’s claim that he was made that way that is totally incorrect. There is not one ounce of scientific proof that homosexuality is natural or that a person is created to be that way. Trust me do the research for yourself & you will see many have tried to prove it & have failed. It is a demonic spirit & this writer like others needs to be delivered from it. Part of that deliverance is wanting to be set free. It sounds from the letter that the writer did not take the proper steps to be delivered & no longer desires that deliverance. I pray for the soul of this person & for all those he intends to lead astray.

  19. God loves gay people, their soul is equally important. Their eternity is equally important. Jesus hung on a cross for the sins of man. Including sexual sins. It is a sin to be gay. He loves the person hates the sin. Maybe if people would find Salvation and not religion they would realize that. It’s true salvation that delivers us from sin. The murderer, the thief, the liar, the abuser, the cheater, and the confused. Does he love any of these less than he loves a Christian? No!! He dies for all of us! His blood is for all sin of every nature. Deception though is a lie of the devil. Being a minister without being called, is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Many will come in his name! Do not be deceived! Sin is Sin! The bible says it, and GOD does not lie!!

  20. Well actually it’s hate the sinner but hate the sin. Sure homosexuality is wrong, but that doesn’t mean that we can’t treat them like humans.

    • Hate the sinner hate the sin???? Really, What a great response. It’s Love the sinner (person) hate the sin! God can not look at sin. We all know that! He couldn’t look at his own son on the cross while he was covered with all of ours. You need a covering for God to look upon you, the blood of Jesus! Secondly, I’d like to point out that the writer states that his father condemned him for his sin. At least he didn’t have to hang on a cross and have his father turn his eyes away. Lastly I’d like to say I treat all people like humans! I have never treated anyone different because of the way they live. It is not my job to condemn or to judge, just to love! That’s what I do!

    • No its Love the sinner~ Hate the sin! And it was stated by Gandhi! But the bible does teach us to love everyone~

      1 John 4:8
      Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

  21. It is a shame that many Christians say that being gay is a sin. In the Catholic Church, that is not what we’re taught. We’re taught that having gay relations is a sin, but that being gay isn’t. That desire to lay with men (if you’re gay) or with women (if you’re lesbian) is a temptation, just like two horny teenagers being together isn’t a sin, but them having sex outside of marriage is. And it’s because of those bigoted Christians that gays hate us. We’re lumped in with them. I want the gay community to know that the Catholic Church does not hate you, we don’t think you being gay is a sin. God bless you

  22. First and, foremost God is love! Second Jesus said I have come to seek and save that which is lost. You in yourself can change nothing but, Jesus said he would make you whole. My answer to this is simple, Jesus said they that are whole need not a physician but they that are sick do. It’s very simple invite Jesus in your heart and ask him to fill you with his Spirit. This is compassion speeking, I am not condemning you, but I encourage you to seek the indwelling of HIS Spirit.

  23. Oh dear Mr. Anonymous, I feel sad for you and I’m sorry you’re hurting so much. However until you are able to separate the facts from your feelings, you will never find peace in your heart. There are facts and then there are opinions, feelings, interpretations, etc. When you were 13 and you read the Bible aloud in class, you read what you read: a fact. What you read came from the Bible. It is what it is and it is the direction of God. It doesn’t say or mean God doesn’t love you, it means homosexual acts are a sin. That’s a fact. Being a gay person doesn’t make you a sinner, homosexual acts are a sin. Also yes, God loves all people. Sinners and non-sinners; however I have yet to meet one non-sinner in my entire life. That’s why Jesus died for us. Placing blame on Phil Robertson or anyone else who does their best to live as a Christian is completely unnecessary. Placing blame on the Bible or God is completely unnecessary. I’m sorry your family and others in this world have decided to be mean about their beliefs, that’s not very Christian-like either! You also seemed to blame God for “making” you this way. That’s not a fact either, God made you perfect as He made each of us perfect. What happens after that is the doing of the world and it’s people. You and only you can decide how you’re going to live and if you are going to follow God and His Word or not. You can’t just decide God’s Word doesn’t suit you right now, or that part’s of His Word doesn’t suit you right now. His Word is His Word, period. Stop looking for blame. Phil Robertson did nothing wrong, he cited the Word of God. Yes, there are millions of a-holes out there who are mean. Mean to gays. Mean to women. Mean to children. Forget them, they are nothing. Blessings to you, I sincerely hope and pray you are able to decipher out fact versus B.S. and find peace in your heart and peace with God. That’s all that matters.

  24. This isn’t a powerful reply. This comes from a gay man who lives with a jerk. Phil Robertson doesn’t advocate violence or persecution towards homosexuals, and neither does the bible. Phil didn’t say anything wrong, and did not incite violence towards homosexuals.

  25. Unfortunately this is nothing more than a page full of contradictions! The anonymous author blatantly disregards the biblical laws set forth by JC, which specifically states that homosexuality is a sin, and any person who commit such sin will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. The words of G-D are clearly written in black & white, through the revelation of JC, but apparently the author feels that he will be some sort of Messiah by taking a stand against G-D’s word, refusing to accept the biblical fact that homosexuality is a sin, while preaching to other homosexuals that they too should defy his word and live a life of sin without fear of persecution. If the author is so confident that he is not living in sin, I’m assuming that he’s going to rewrite the Bible to accommodate his sinful lifestyle? If his family already knows that he is gay and refuses to accept him as such, even though his ideation is to change the biblical world to accommodate homosexuality, then why does he hide his identity? The author should be reminded that no closet can hide him, or his sins, from his creator!

    • Timothy,

      Would you please reference versus pertaining to the following:

      “The anonymous author blatantly disregards the biblical laws set forth by JC, which specifically states that homosexuality is a sin, and any person who commit such sin will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.”

      I am aware of references to the sins of Sodom (fornication) and to upholding the law of Moses (which includes Leviticus, which condemns homosexuality and quite a lot of other things besides), but am aware of no passage in which Jesus himself “specifically states that homosexuality is a sin”. I am curious to know what I am missing.

  26. Since 1789 the Untied states has centered its government around the Constitution, amending certain parts that were left open by the founders of this great country. The Bible on the other hand was written through man over 2000 years ago with God’s direction. It was not written for man’s interpretation, it was written to show man the Godly way to live. To tell us how, if we so choose to follow him, to gain entrance into heaven. Posting this anonymously shows you are afraid for what you stand for, I for one am not, and proud to call myself a Christian!

    • Amen~

    • Mr. V.,

      I’m so glad that you are neither afraid nor ashamed to call yourself a Christian. However, I think it is important to keep in mind that the US is a Christian majority country, and that it is unlikely that you face any threat of violence for your beliefs and practices, nor do you suffer from any diminishment of civil rights or freedoms for identifying yourself as a Christian. One might almost say that there is no legitimate reason for you to feel afraid or ashamed of your pronouncement.

      LGBTQI folks, on the other hand, face significant threats of violence, ostracization from families and faith communities, and substantial abridgement of their civil rights. For the author and for other people in this community, there is much to fear, threats to their immediate well-being and safety, and there are many, yourself included, inclined to shame them.

      The situations are not comparable. It is as if you look at a man on a tightrope, high above, and disdain his trembling, saying, “I stand on the ground, and *I* am not afraid! What’s his problem?”

  27. I read the “Letter”, this young man, wants to be a Minister, my question is how can you be a Minister IF you do not believe in the teachings of the Bible or of Christ, how can you lead others in the Ways of God if you yourself steadfastly refuse to walk those paths. Yes we all at one time or another get lost on our journey, but we must work hard to get back on track. I once knew a fine man who was a Minister, he had led a checkered past, but he Found God and followed him and his teachings, ALL of them not just the ones he felt he wanted to just because they didn’t mess with his lifestyle. What gets me though is this guy had already came out to his parents, but lacked the conviction to come out to everyone. If in truth he really was PROUD of what he claims to be then why hide it? There are places he can live openly, yes he may have to give up the things he loves only enough to stay, but he obviously loves being GAY more, so follow your heart. As for God “HATING” gays, that is not what it says, Leviticus 18:22 says it is an abomination: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/abomination : it is seen to be disgusting and loathsome, the act, not the person, the act! God loves all his Children, but not all of his Children love him enough to follow him, instead they say “God made me this way”, to this I say a resounding “NO” God did not make you any way, you were born and you were taught first by your “PARENTS” then your “PEERS” and by the “MEDIA” of the day, none of which follow steadfastly the teachings of God, well maybe your “PARENTS” do, but peer groups and media do not always follow the teachings of God or those of Jesus, our path in life is formed by our seeing what others show us and we either agree with them enough to say “Yes, this is the Truth to my eyes” or we are skeptic and not trusting this presented us, and form our own opinions. We take the parts of what we see or hear and make it ours by shaping it to our own fashion, what we want it to mean and from there we forge our own path in life. The Bible is a guide book to how God wants us to live our lives with examples of what happens to us when we stray. I say to this young man and any other person who openly or in hiding say you are “Gay”, do not Point accusatory fingers at God and say “You made me this way!”, without first remembering there are three other fingers pointing right back at you.

  28. No your Love isn’t wrong because a man with a beard said so in a GQ article…
    Your Love is wrong because a bearded man who died on a cross said it was in the Bible! Does that mean your family should not love you still, absolutely NOT! The Bible also states to Love the sinner and hate the sin!

  29. Excuse me, Phil Robertson quoted the Bible, and then stated his own religious belief. Then he stated his own sexual preference. THEN he said it’s not his place to judge people, but to tell them the truth about Jesus and to love them. HOW did Phil Robertson get equated to your dysfunctional family who called you an asshole and threatened to kill you?

    Phil Robertson has NEVER advocated violence against homosexuals. He simply stated the biblical view of sexuality.

    I am sorry this anonymous author’s family is screwed up. It’s not Phil’s fault, and Phil didn’t do or say the things you are all jacked up over. It is your family who has made you feel unsafe in your own home, not Phil Robertson. Please stop projecting.

  30. Question here really is -Whos will are we choosing .Are we choosing to do our will or Gods will.If I chose my will ,what my eyes see my heart wants and should have it.If I am doing Gods will then my choices are based on his word and why because he has his best interests for me.I completely understand you have a struggle but that struggle is because is no different than mine because we are both born into a diseased world called sin.I am not going to give you advice but I will say that yes God does love you.Your in my prayers with love

  31. Everyone keeps talking about christ and sin in response to this guy’s letter. But let’s put sin aside for a minute. This letter to me is about what kind of society we have created. People that are offended at EVERYTHING. People that allow emotions to control them. The world revolves around “me”. I have people disagree with me all the time about how I live my life. I am a secure enough person that I don’t care. I’ve been thinking about this for a couple of weeks now. The ONLY time I am ever offended when someone disagrees with me or I am embarrassed by their opinions about what I have said or done, basically whenever my pride gets in the way, it’s ALWAYS because I know what I’m doing/have done/are about to do is wrong. EVERY TIME. Think about it. If someone questions your ice cream choice and they say “Oh, I hate that flavor,” are you offended? When someone says “I hate chocolate” or “dogs” or something else I love and support, I’m not offended or scared or anything. I simply think they are crazy. So why are people, like this boy, offended or angered or any other strong emotion. If we were calling for his head that would be different. But no one is. People are simply stating an opinion. So why does it bother everyone so much? That is the real question. My answer is I think deep down they all know it’s wrong.

    • Ms. Joyner, while I think it’s important to be conscious of our emotions and where they come from, but I wonder how often people have told you, in all seriousness, that you deserve to be killed, assaulted, or put in a camp for any part of your identity, or even just for something you believe or have said or have done? How often have you been told that you face eternal damnation for some incontrovertible fact of yourself? When people who are in a comparatively underprivileged position hear that kind of thing a lot–and they often do–it is impossible not to respond to it, emotionally. It’s not over-sensitivity to be worn down by frequent or constant abuse and denigration, particularly when it’s underscored by unequal treatment by one’s government. The suggestion that the author, or anyone in his position, must grow a thicker skin is unhelpful, and is frankly victim-blaming.

      • A government and people have the right to treat people according to their actions. Homosexual activists repeat this idea that the “struggle for LBGT rights” is the same as the struggle for the civil rights of minorities. As far as I know the government has never denied voting rights, enacted Jim Crow laws, segregated, lynched, beat, or intimidated gays in a way African Americans were. To insinuate they have is disingenuous at best and a fraud at worst. Racial minorities do not have a choice in the matter. Homosexuality is a choice. That is why it’s illegal and immoral to treat minorities differently and it’s legal to treat gays differently the same way we distinguish between those who have sex with children or animals. Certainly you can argue consent with the child, but the animal is just property. Society has the right to encourage or discourage behavior through the legal process.

  32. If this guy has a “fear” of living in Louisiana because of what Phil Robertson said then he’s got bigger problems than worrying about what someone thinks. He honestly should see a therapist because of this.

    You know, I could care less if he’s gay. That’s HIS life. Really!! WHO THE F CARES?!?!?!?

    Phil Robertson stated his beliefs and NO MATTER WHAT they are HIS beliefs and he is entitled to them. When GLAAD jumped up to try to make A&E try to censor him then they were doing the very thing that they are supposedly against. The problem with GLAAD and the NAACP are they are all for “EQUAL” rights….as long as your beliefs are inline with theirs and dont rock the boat. Once you dont agree with them or their lifestyle you are not longer entitled to have an opinion or your own beliefs and are now a homophobe, a racist a bigot…I could go on, but you get the drift.

    Now every single gay person thinks that they must have some big coming out party. I dont know very many people running around announcing that they are straight. You know why….WHO CARES!!!?!?!?!?? I dont give a shit if your gay, straight, crooked or a damn cirlce….live your life. Live YOUR life. Dont try to live others lives for them!!! Stop trying to get your extra 15 minutes of fame and let people be entitled to what THEY want to believe.

    And for all of the gay teens out there getting bullied. I promise, it will get better. I am a straight, 43 old man. You probably are saying what the hell would I know. I know, because I have made it to 43!! Everything will ALWAYS get better. Bullies will be just that…bullies. You wont change them. They will always get what’s coming to them. TRUST ME. Think before you act. ALWAYS.

    And as far as bullies go, Phil Robertson doesnt fall into this category. He has NEVER bullied anyone. He gave his opinon. That’s it. Time to let it go.

  33. I found your post to be inaccurate on several fronts, but first let me set the record straight. First,God does not hate gays,in fact He doesn’t hate any person. He loves everyone because He created every person. God does hate sin….all sin, in fact He tells us in the bible there is no difference between any sin. He is just agrieved by any sexual relationship that occurs outside the sanctity of marriage, gay or straight. Just like He hates false witness, murder, etc. Secondly,Vod did NOTcreate you as gay,AS A CHRISTIAN MINISTER, you should be well aware that God does not make mistakes. If you are a man,he did not create you to be attracted to other men. You are experiencing deception and deception is a product of the enemy. Because you are experiencing those feelings, does not mean you should act upon them,just as unmarrieds should not act upon their sexual urges.BOTH ACTIONS ARE EQUALLY WRONG INTHE EYES OF GOD. sin is sin period. Secondly, Phil Robertson made it explicitly clear that he DOES NOT HATE GAYS…nor did he say God hates gays….He said God hates sin, which He does as is stated in His word. Both new and old testaments declare that He turned people over to the devil and his ways due to their repeated disobedience to His Word. This occured a long time before homosexuality ever became the issue it is now. Phil was overly graphic in his explanation as to why homosexuality is un-natural according to His purpose for creating both men and women, which you know was to populate and subdue this earth, which would be impossible by gay relations. I am sure that you by now have classified me along sid. Phil..Just know that two of my children are gay and my brother is a transgender. I love all three dearly, and accept them as they are…although I do NOT agree with their lifestyles,it does not prevent me from loving them all. I am grieved about your family situation. I believe your familie’s actions are most sinful, because they arewillfully choosing to hate God’s creation. Jesus said that if you say you love Him and hate His creations, that you are a liar and cannot love Him. I am praying for all of your family members to see the truth. If you are in fear for your life and safety, it is not the Robertson family’s fault. They have made no threats to anybody. Lastly let me point out that a minister,Phil has been preaching that same message for many years, but it wasn’t until GQ exploited him in an interview that you became fearful. Therefore if anyone is responsible for your fear, it would be GQ.and if you do really feel fear, then GQ has manipulated you as well. It saddens me that any human being would choose to be defined mostly by their sexuality, I am certain that there is much much more to you than that.

    • Amen and well said!

    • At least you actions towards you family member speak of love, waiting to see the love Phil speaks about. Action speaks louder to God than words.

    • Howard, I’m not so sure of your statement “Vod (God) did NOTcreate you as gay, AS A CHRISTIAN MINISTER, you should be well aware that God does not make mistakes.” Here is my thought process: 1) God NEVER makes a mistake. We make choices that mess up God’s plan for us. ie-Eve ate the fruit that God said not to eat and thru Adam & Eve, sin entered the world.
      2) God creates all life. The fact that a baby can be made from an egg & a sperm cell and become a human is mind-boggling! But to say that someone isn’t born gay because God doesn’t make mistakes is off base, in my opinion. How do you explain that babies are born without arms and legs, born with extra fingers and toes, born with Down’s syndrome, some, born with only partial brains or none at all. (Those babies don’t survive long if born alive.) Some are born as conjoined twins. Did God create them? Yes, He did. Did HE make a mistake when He made them? No, I don’t believe so. These things happen because SIN ENTERED THE WORLD with Adam and Eve. It’s not God’s fault but the result of sin. Go back and study Genesis.
      3) God created man with free will. He wanted us to love Him because we choose to, not because we have to. Eve used that free will to disobey the one and only rule God gave them. I believe some gays/lesbians do choose that lifestyle. I also believe some were born that way. Either way, they still have to choose to ACT on those sexual desires, just as I have to choose whether or not to ACT on my desires to have sex outside of marriage. I choose to obey God’s directives, tho it’s not always easy.
      Just some food for thought here.

  34. Let’s take a breath and consider what we’re actually talking about here. God does not hate anyone! Where do people come up with this nonsense? Let’s quote that famous verse, John 3:16 and take it apart. “For God so loved the whole world that he gave his only son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.” If you believe in God, you understand He has a STANDARD of conduct through obedience of his Word. This standard along with the Holy Spirit convicts us to act in a way that is pleasing to God. i.e. Not sin.

    So if one is profess that they are a Christian, it means they are growing and distancing themselves from things that separate them from God. AKA a person who follows Christ will have to leave homosexuality. One cannot teach God’s word and live a life of sin. There’s a word for that, hypocrisy.

  35. cute stuff… just that, cute. he should go to MSNNBC or Oprah… or even TEDtalk to get a standing ovation. He fails miserably declaring his family is ignorant. Maybe he is ignorant. Maybe not. But this cute letter looses power when he passes judgement on others while begging people not to do so on him. typical progressive.

  36. This was a very heartfelt piece by Anonymous. I feel sad for him that he has grown up in such an un-accepting family. And that his Sunday school teacher who told him to be gay was a sin was a huge blow to him. Too bad the teacher didn’t understand that to be gay isn’t a sin, but the ACT of homosexuality is the sin.
    It is difficult, at best, to get a feel for God’s love for us when our own father (and family) won’t love us. After all, how can God the Father love us if our own earthly father can’t love us because we are gay, or any kind of different? But, rest assured, God DOES love each of us.
    It is my prayer that this young man will find peace and joy in our Lord.

  37. Exchange the word ‘homosexual’ with ‘drug addict’, ‘alcoholic’. or any other ADDICTION and the same answer applies. They are SINS and if you want to be straight with God, you will ask for the strength to overcome that sin.
    Who knows if Satan is behind that sin, or if God is testing your belief by offering YOU – FREE WILL?
    As with ALL the sins detailed in the Bible, YOU have the FREE WILL to either obey God or deny Him. If that means giving up your homosexual behavior and going on with your life that way, YOU have the free will to do that, or to NOT do that. Maybe that will mean giving up your homosexual ‘lover’. Well, maybe God didn’t intend for you to have a homosexual ‘lover’. Maybe He is testing your faith.
    As for Phil, He quoted his Biblical belief and the homosexual community thought they could force him to bow down to THEM and deny his faith. They picked the WRONG guy! And hundreds of thousands who have the same belief stood up and rejected their demands. Finally, the Christian people woke up and defied that vocal MINORITY!
    I think all who think the same way as Phil does, should buy one of his duck calls and every time the deviants start squalling and moaning about being mistreated – take out your duck call and tootle away! No one could claim they were saying ‘hurtful’ things, if they just tooted their duck call….

  38. Just to sum up a few good points from this mangle of posts:
    1. Having a same sex attraction is not sin. Choosing to act on that attraction is sin.
    2. We can’t promote a sinful lifestyle and be a minister of the God who calls it sin.
    3. Calling homosexuality sin is not hate. It is an act of love to show someone how to inherit Heaven.
    4. To hate someone is wrong-period. Regardless of what they do or do not do.
    5. Calling homosexuality sin is not judging. It is simply repeating what the Bible calls sin.

    One other point I would make. Lots of people ask why Christians are hung-up on the sin of homosexuality. The answer is simple- it’s the sin that our government and society are trying to tell us(and our children) is ok in the eyes of God.

    As Phil quoted, “Do not be deceived”

    • And its amazing, you trying to deceive us with false representation of God’s words and intent, Jesus spoke none of the points you gave, so I as a Christian choose not pay attention to any of them, Jesus would have done the same. You without sin, cast the first stone.

      • You can choose to believe whatever you like. If you would study the “cast the first stone” a bit further you would find the Lord told the woman to go and sin no more. He didn’t excuse her sin, accept it or condone it. But, I guess it’s me who is “misrepresenting God’s words”.

  39. Haters gotta hate. Using Religion as an excuse to do that is a phenomenon as old as the hills.

    When scripture says both fornication with the opposite sex is sinful, and fornication with the same sex is also sinful – and that is what it says when you read it in context – that’s no reason to denigrate marriage, to someone of either sex.

    In some parts of the world fully one person in 50 naturally changes sex after birth. That’s usually from either 5ARD or 17BHSD syndromes, but other causes exist. That makes a nonsense of the whole anti-gay haters arguments.

    Those pontificating about sin are ignorant of this, and while I rarely use such a perjorative word, preferring “ill-informed” or the like, they use their ignorance as an excuse to hurt others, to be unkind and cruel.

    They swallow the camels of divorce and extra-marital sex,and strain at the gnat of same sex marriage. “Without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful” to quote their favourite passage, 1 Romans, that is an exactly accurate description of these pious hypocrites, made all the sadder because they;re not aware of their own hypocrisy.

    I’m sorry but I have too many of my own genuine sins to worry about without condemning others for theirs, real or imagined. I can’t afford the time to show them their errors, something about removing the beam in my own eye first.

    But I’ve seen how they treat Intersex people, those born with bodies neither wholly male nor female, or worse,those who change from one to the other. I’ve experienced their implacable hatred, their pig-ignorance, Slanderers, arrogant and boastful, inventors of evil, again quoting 1 Romans.

    They think anything to do with this stuff is Icky. It upsets them to think about it. They have an irrational revulsion against it. So to feel good about themselves, they then cherry-pick and even pervert scripture to pretend that their nasty, petty malice is God’s will.

    • Very well stated Ms. Brain. Way too many people use their religion and their bible to perpetuate hatred.

  40. For the author of this post:

    Firstly, if you are still reading after all the hate that has been thrown your way, you are a very impressive man, indeed.

    Secondly, I am an ordained minister of a Christian church. Unlike most of the flapping gums in the comment section here, I actually have studied and learned the Bible – not as something parrot without thought, but as something to actually understand. I am proud to belong to a denomination that understands that sexuality is irrelevant to God. We have been ordaining openly gay clergy for 25 years. We have many openly transgendered clergy. I am pleased and delighted to call many of them not only my colleagues, but my friends.

    I know you already know this, but Given the avalanche of hatefilled garbe that has spewed forth in the comments section here, I want to state this as clearly as possible. You are a loved child of God. There is nothing wrong with you, in any way, shape or form. In fact, I’m pretty sure that God is frankly delighted in you, and She is enormously proud of your courage.

    In my denomination, the heart of our Creed is the statement “We are not alone.” You are not alone, no matter how much your family might try and make you feel that you are, no matter how much the evil legions of conservative denominations will try and push you back into silence. Your journey will not be easy, and I cannot imagine how difficult it must be for you. But you are not alone. There are legions of loving, open minded people, Christian and otherwise, who are waiting to welcome you with open arms. You may have to physically leave behind what you know, but you do not have to do it on your own.

    To all the shallow minded, Biblically illiterate, hate filled venomous people commenting here, and elsewhere, know this. God loves you, too. She is deeply saddened and disappointed by you, but She still loves you.

    Pretty much everyone else thinks you are a bunch of assholes, though.

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